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  • Aug 24, 2020 05:49 PM
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    J.K.Logic Wrote:

    This is THE chance for both candidates to win over those that aren't already watching and just hoping their guy slings mud the best at the other. Hopefully their is enough substance there for that to happen. Otherwise this will be what many fear - political theater and nothing more.

    Agreed, or it could be instead of slinging mud, people will be watching to see which candidate will say or do the worst thing. Like you said, that too could push undecideds just as much as mud slinging could.
  • Aug 27, 2020 05:48 PM
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    Every convention has a motive and a message they are trying to get across to Americans. They're not really speaking to the delegates as much as they're talking through them to the people watching at home. I think that was even more evident with both the DNC and the RNC being watched online more than they would have been in previous years, due to the current circumstances. Each speech has felt very stiff, coordinated, and too alike. It's almost as if everyone got one part of a very long speech, and each speaker was merely saying their part.

    Here are some moments that have stuck out to me each night:

    Night 1: Mark and Patricia McCloskey

    They're St. Louis attorneys who brandished guns at protesters this year. I couldn't see a more polarizing move on the GOP's part for having them there. They made false claims that Biden wanted to "abolish the suburbs", and really made a boogeyman out of their opposition in a very underhanded wink wink, nudge nudge sort of way. Too close for comfort, if you ask me.

    Night 2: Naturalization ceremony

    It was a pre-taped ceremony that featured 5 citizenship applicants from diverse backgrounds. Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf officiated it. According to the New York Times, no president has ever used such a ceremony as a campaign event. One last, but most important thing to point out is that the Government Accountability Office determined that Wolf was breaking the law because he was never lawfully appointed. So these citizenship papers may be null and void.

    Night 3: Lara Trump misquoting Abraham Lincoln in her speech.

    "Abraham Lincoln once famously said: 'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves,'" Mrs Trump said, who is married to Donald Trump's second son, Eric Trump.

    Fact checkers at both the New York times and USA Today found no records of the 16th president saying those words. It mostly came from a meme that has been widely circulated online.

    Night 4: TBD

    We'll see how the final night turns out. I'll update with my takeaway from night 4. What moments stood out to you the most?

  • Aug 21, 2020 03:46 PM
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    J.K.Logic Wrote:

    But also the candidates themselves, juxtaposed against each other. JFK v Nixon was the ultimate example of this I would say.

    You're so right about this one. I believe it was the first televised debate, if I'm not mistaken. JFK looked young, calm, cool and collected, and Nixon looked quite the opposite. That debate alone has been credited for swaying the popular vote in Kennedy's favor. Nixon was known to have never gotten over that debate, and he blamed it for him losing the election. One other fun fact though, the reason why this happened was because Nixon began to sweat, either from the hot studio lights or from nervousness. It was taken as the latter by the majority of people, and it gave off a sense of weakness.
  • Aug 18, 2020 04:08 PM
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    J.K.Logic Wrote: Since these are so recent compared to your last list, I definitely remember them all. Eastwood's will certainly go down as one of the most bizarre and interesting political stunts in history. That one transcends politics even and has spilled over into the mainstream. Hard to top, though let's see what 2020 brings.
    So true, you know it's a big deal when your speech becomes a meme. Wink
  • Aug 21, 2020 04:27 PM
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    Joe Biden's speech was the shortest DNC speech since 1984, but it was quite strong and straight to the point. It's probably the most important speech he's ever had to make. I don't think there was a single thing he didn't address. I'd say though that it didn't have the feels that Michelle Obama's did, but it was still good and professional. Thanking Barack Obama in the speech was a nice touch, in my opinion, but the strongest statement hands down has to be when he said "no miracle is coming." I must say it's a relief to hear a speech delivered in such a way.

    Who thinks this is one of the strongest speech at the DNC? Was it better than Michelle's?

  • Aug 08, 2020 07:01 PM
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    That's such a cheap move, figuratively and literally. It's a slap in the face to Americans in need. History has shown many times what happens when a people cannot rely on or trust their government to keep them safe. All I'm saying.
  • Aug 11, 2020 12:59 PM
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    Michelle Obama's speech definitely set the tone for the convention. It was wonderful, honest, and inspiring.
  • Aug 17, 2020 05:33 PM
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    J.K.Logic Wrote:

    There's a good chance the polls will change after the conventions, for both sides. I imagine some favor-ability/likability poll results will go up for a short while for each candidate, after each convention. And maybe we'll even see the candidates come closer in the national polls overall, as each side digs in.

    But I agree, the fact that these are virtual conventions takes a lot of steam out of them. The Republicans don't have a lot of draw for theirs outside of Trump himself, but he gets so much coverage already I'm not sure how much that will change things. No doubt he does or says something, or 10 somethings, that make headlines for a while. But again, that always happens anyways.

    Agreed. But still, I can see it reaching more people since so many folks are still in their homes. It definitely could be argued that it may reach more people than previous live conventions.
  • Aug 14, 2020 06:09 PM
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    @J.K.Logic

    Sorry about that, I cut out the last part(the most important part) of that paragraph. This should explain it. :)

    According to the New York Times, Garry was superintendent of sewers in Chicago and in charge of setting up the Chicago Stadium for the DNC when, at a key point in the convention, he used a separate sound system in the catacombs under the stadium and began booming “We want Roosevelt!” into a microphone.

  • Aug 18, 2020 04:08 PM
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    Well, since I did one on the Democratic National Convention, I thought I might as well do one for the Republican National Convention. The Republican National Convention has just as many, if not more, memorable, and perhaps crazy moments that have happened in its history. So, here we are, the most memorable moments in the history of the Republican National Convention.

    The empty chair: Clint Eastwood at the 2012 RNC

    After being revealed as the 2012 RNC’s much-anticipated “mystery guest,” actor and director Clint Eastwood appeared onstage and had a conversation with an empty chair, which he said was meant to represent President Barack Obama. Eastwood received applause and laughter from the convention floor, but elsewhere reactions were less enthusiastic, with Rachel Maddow calling the appearance “the weirdest thing I’ve seen at a political convention” and Wolf Blitzer calling it “confusing,” “rambling” and “a big mistake.”

    The pit bull: Sarah Palin at the 2008 RNC

    The world was introduced to then-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin at the 2008 RNC, where she made her acceptance speech as Republican nominee John McCain’s running mate. Prior to the convention, more than seven out of 10 Americans had never heard of Palin, according to a Gallup poll at the time.

    That all changed after her RNC speech, which “brought the Republican National Convention to its feet” as delegates chanted her name, according to ABC News. During the speech, Palin also delivered one of her famous one-liners — “You know, they say the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.”

    The familiar speech: Melania Trump at the 2016 RNC

    During the 2016 RNC, many accused Melania Trump of plagiarizing a speech given by Michelle Obama at the 2008 DNC. One section in particular was nearly identical.

    “Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values. That you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond, and you do what you say you’re going to do. That you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don’t know them, and even if you don’t agree with them,” Michelle Obama said in 2008.

    “From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond, and you do what you say and keep your promise. That you treat people with respect,” Melania Trump said eight years later.

    Meredith McIver, a staff writer for the Trump Organization, later took the fall.

    I either forgot about Melania's speech, or it went right under my radar. Luckily for her it was a staff writer's fault, but still, that one was pretty bad. Does anyone else have a memorable moment to add?